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Re: [Mingw-msys] mSYS Bash 3.0




Haibin Zhang wrote, quoting me:
>>> I know the problem, it's the problem in m4,
>>> he must use m4 version >= 1.4.7
>>
>> If that is true, can you explain why it [autoconf-2.61] builds
>> OOTB for me, still using m4 with version == 1.4, as included in
>> msysDTK-1.0.1?
>>
>> The error messages posted previously did point to a possible
>> perl conflict between the MSYS implementation and ActiveState
>> perl, which was also installed.
>
> I have tested autoconf with m4-1.4 and ActiveState perl , it can't
> be used.

I have been *using* autoconf-2.61, for several months now, in *real*
production service, and with *exactly* the versions of m4 and perl as
included in msysDTK-1.0.1, (i.e. m4-1.4, perl-5.6.1), and I have not
yet encountered a single problem.  (There was exactly one error, when
I ran the autoconf-2.61 testsuite -- it was associated with a macro
I've never used, can't recall which, and it hasn't troubled me in
routine usage).

> and autoconf team said that autconf-2.61 must use m4-1.4.7
> in ChangeLog

I am aware of that recommendation, and no doubt the autoconf team
have good reason to make it; I simply have not encountered it.

> (I also tested m4-1.4.6 can't be used with autoconf-2.61)

That is not borne out by my experience, although when I built m4-1.4.6,
(as a MinGW app, not an MSYS app), and I ran its testsuite, I saw too
many failures to encourage me to place it into regular service.

> If you want to use autconf-2.61 in Mingw, you should depend these
> packages:
>
>   m4-1.4.7
>   perl-5.6.1 (in msysDTK-1.0.1, don't use ActiveState perl
>     or build by yourself)

I agree, in the case of perl.  I'm not yet convinced about m4.  If
I do encounter a case which fails, then I will surely investigate
the possibility that an m4 versioning issue is the culprit; until
that happens, m4-1.4 will suffice.

> and you must remove other packages in msysDTK-1.0.1

This simply is not true...

> (beacuse many packages are very old),

Yes, that is true.  There are newer versions of some available in our
snapshot repository:
https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2435&package_id=82724&release_id=158862
(but neither m4, nor perl is among them).  You are welcome to use any
of these today, but we will not package them until the MSYS-1.0.11
release has been finalised.

> if you don't do that, it will occur error.

You say this, but you offer no concrete evidence.

BTW, when replying to postings on this list, could you please *mark*
quoted text as such, rather than just indenting it ever so slightly;
your indentation disappears from the HTML list archives, making the
thread difficult to follow, at best, bordering on incomprehensible
in general.

Regards,
Keith.

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