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Re: Accessing Secnews




On 07.07.2008 20:08, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused  Blinky the 
Shark to generate the following:? :
> squaredancer wrote:
>   
>> On 06.07.2008 07:28, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused  Blinky the 
>> Shark to generate the following:? :
>>     
>>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> Jay Garcia wrote:
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>> On 05.07.2008 02:58, Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  --- Original Message ---
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Jay Garcia wrote:
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> On 04.07.2008 00:18, clay wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  --- Original Message ---
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>> clay wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>> Jay Garcia wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My umpteen year old work profile worked without tweaking. No joy 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the newer install home box.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting, made a test post in testing. Wouldn't let me post with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> only a Subject. Had to put something in the body for the post to be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> accepted. This a new feature?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>> The 40 bit encryption block was only added in the TB 2.0.0.xx versions,
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't remember which one started it as well as the later Seamonkey
>>>>>>>>>>>> versions. If you're using an older TB or SM or Mozilla for that matter
>>>>>>>>>>>> then you don't need to tweak the setting(s) in about:config.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>> Home box= Version 1.5.0.14ubu (20080306)
>>>>>>>>>>> The settings are there and tweaked...
>>>>>>>>>>> Still can't get in. 'Connection to server secnews... timed out.'
>>>>>>>>>>> It worked before the expiration.
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>> are you using port 563 and is SSL checked?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>> Yup...
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>> Check your firewall settings/permissions. "Timed out" and "Connection
>>>>>>>> refused" are not the same thing, the latter being the one if your SSL
>>>>>>>> setting are not set to "true".
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>> Jay, I'm probably just burning up my Stupid Question For The Month at a 
>>>>>>> very early date, but what's the advantage to the user of using the 
>>>>>>> secnews server?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> Summed up pretty nicely by Dan, but I can add:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Because it's there! ;-)
>>>>>> 2. No incoming OR outgoing feed to usenet or otherwise
>>>>>> 3. Liberal posting policy(s)
>>>>>> 4. Spam harvesting softwares are few and far between that can
>>>>>> scan/harvest an SNEWS server. Yes, it CAN be done but usually not worth
>>>>>> the effort.
>>>>>> 5. NNTP Server software loaded/running on dedicated server, not shared.
>>>>>> 6. It's FREE !!
>>>>>> 7. reg is not blocked. :-)
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>> I'm lost.  I added secnews.netscape.com.  I'm using port 563. 
>>>>> Everything's dandy.  Except I don't see any netscape.mozilla* hierarchy. 
>>>>>    I don't see a TB group.  I don't see a FF group.  The hell am I doing 
>>>>> wrong?
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> ssl needs to be checked and see the last paragraph here:
>>>> news://news.mozilla.org:119/qLKdnUo2u4WJKffVnZ2dnUVZ_o3inZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> or
>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.general/msg/82dec92432bb006b
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> Okay, I did that stuff for the certs and the advanced config and 
>>> refreshed the groups list from the server.
>>>       
>     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>   
>>> It apparently worked -- if there are only seven non-dev newsgroups in 
>>> the whole netscape.mozilla* hierarchy.
>>>       
>> click the update button next to the server-list!
>>     
>
> <sigh>
>
> What is unclear about "and refreshed the groups list from server", above?
>
> That's how I got the groups I do show.  I will repeat *this* for you, as 
> well: there are only seven non-dev newsgroups showing in the whole 
> netscape.mozilla* hierarchy.
>
> Is that really all there are?
>
>   
ohhhh - so THAT is what you meant....
but "yes" - there are only 7+1 and, of the 7, Firebird is a bit obsolete!

reg
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