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Re: Accessing Secnews




squaredancer wrote:
> On 07.07.2008 20:08, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused  Blinky the 
> Shark to generate the following:? :
>> squaredancer wrote:
>>   
>>> On 06.07.2008 07:28, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused  Blinky the 
>>> Shark to generate the following:? :
>>>     
>>>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>       
>>>>> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>>>>     
>>>>>         
>>>>>> Jay Garcia wrote:
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>> On 05.07.2008 02:58, Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  --- Original Message ---
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> Jay Garcia wrote:
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>> On 04.07.2008 00:18, clay wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  --- Original Message ---
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>> clay wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jay Garcia wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My umpteen year old work profile worked without tweaking. No joy 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the newer install home box.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting, made a test post in testing. Wouldn't let me post with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only a Subject. Had to put something in the body for the post to be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accepted. This a new feature?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The 40 bit encryption block was only added in the TB 2.0.0.xx versions,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't remember which one started it as well as the later Seamonkey
>>>>>>>>>>>>> versions. If you're using an older TB or SM or Mozilla for that matter
>>>>>>>>>>>>> then you don't need to tweak the setting(s) in about:config.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>> Home box= Version 1.5.0.14ubu (20080306)
>>>>>>>>>>>> The settings are there and tweaked...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Still can't get in. 'Connection to server secnews... timed out.'
>>>>>>>>>>>> It worked before the expiration.
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>> are you using port 563 and is SSL checked?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>> Yup...
>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>> Check your firewall settings/permissions. "Timed out" and "Connection
>>>>>>>>> refused" are not the same thing, the latter being the one if your SSL
>>>>>>>>> setting are not set to "true".
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>> Jay, I'm probably just burning up my Stupid Question For The Month at a 
>>>>>>>> very early date, but what's the advantage to the user of using the 
>>>>>>>> secnews server?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>> Summed up pretty nicely by Dan, but I can add:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Because it's there! ;-)
>>>>>>> 2. No incoming OR outgoing feed to usenet or otherwise
>>>>>>> 3. Liberal posting policy(s)
>>>>>>> 4. Spam harvesting softwares are few and far between that can
>>>>>>> scan/harvest an SNEWS server. Yes, it CAN be done but usually not worth
>>>>>>> the effort.
>>>>>>> 5. NNTP Server software loaded/running on dedicated server, not shared.
>>>>>>> 6. It's FREE !!
>>>>>>> 7. reg is not blocked. :-)
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>> I'm lost.  I added secnews.netscape.com.  I'm using port 563. 
>>>>>> Everything's dandy.  Except I don't see any netscape.mozilla* hierarchy. 
>>>>>>    I don't see a TB group.  I don't see a FF group.  The hell am I doing 
>>>>>> wrong?
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>           
>>>>> ssl needs to be checked and see the last paragraph here:
>>>>> news://news.mozilla.org:119/qLKdnUo2u4WJKffVnZ2dnUVZ_o3inZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> or
>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.general/msg/82dec92432bb006b
>>>>>     
>>>>>         
>>>> Okay, I did that stuff for the certs and the advanced config and 
>>>> refreshed the groups list from the server.
>>>>       
>>     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>   
>>>> It apparently worked -- if there are only seven non-dev newsgroups in 
>>>> the whole netscape.mozilla* hierarchy.
>>>>       
>>> click the update button next to the server-list!
>>>     
>> <sigh>
>>
>> What is unclear about "and refreshed the groups list from server", above?
>>
>> That's how I got the groups I do show.  I will repeat *this* for you, as 
>> well: there are only seven non-dev newsgroups showing in the whole 
>> netscape.mozilla* hierarchy.
>>
>> Is that really all there are?
>>
>>   
> ohhhh - so THAT is what you meant....

And clearly fucking stated.

> but "yes" - there are only 7+1 and, of the 7, Firebird is a bit obsolete!

Okay.

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