RE: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

["Jay Blanchard" <jblanchard@xxxxxxxxxx>]

[snip]
If you don't use a framework then obviously you are writing nothing but 
mickey mouse programs, and wouldn't stand a chance when it comes to
writing 
a proper application. ......If you think you can achieve the same 
level of productivity WITHOUT a framework then you are living in cloud 
cuckoo land.
[/snip]

Tony is obviously joking here folks.

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